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Jean-Francais
Registered voter it: 03 Sep
2003 Messages: 1864
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Posted it: Ven
Oct. 01, 2004 8:15 amndt Subject of the
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They are the members of the
ASCQ which will make a head of it, them which are mislaid to
seek the Creator in the Bible whereas it has the two feet
on... hum, perhaps not after all. The new Messiah, and leader
of a religion counting on the Intelligent Design and other
indigestible mixes science/religion to develop his personal
model (and its banking account), is called "Revd. Dr.. Jaerock Lee ": "[ Jaerock Lee
] expects that the scientifically confirmed and applicable
boxes have the obviousness of supernatural intervention will
cuts played significant year role in bringing butt the great
shift in the thinking system of modern science and the
existing philosophical view of human history, together with
the epoch-making scientific research program, the intelligent
design movement. And special He has interest in the scientific
world by unraveling the unsolved puzzles gold mysteries of
science. Until now He has been given many secret of the negro
spiritual realm, the deep and negro spiritual meaning of the
Bible and answers to the unsolved puzzles in the inspiration
of the Holy Spirit."
This a spiritual of Manmin,
religion batarde... forgiveness, syncretic head takes its are delirious for reality.
The photograph of the banner page of "Manmin Research" (which, as for the
"traditional" creationnists, has of "Research" only the name)
shows Machu Picchu. Astonishing for a message suppos?ent
evangelic, but less if it is known that it is one of the
traditional sites of archaeology fiction and the theories of
the "former astronauts". Because, yes, Jaerock Lee powders its
salad with a layer of pyramidiocie and UFO , to make good
measurement.
With regard to the "evidence" of the
Intelligent Design, one finds without surprised the same
denial of the scientific theories associated the total
conceptual vacuum which holds place of usual "demonstration"
of the ID. On the judicious page to support ID , one
finds fallacious assertions of the style: "There is absence in
the professional scientific literature of any detailed models
by which irreducibly complex biochemical systems could cuts
been produced. In the face of the enormous complexity that
modern biochemistry has uncovered in the life forms, the
scientific community is paralyzed ". They is perfectly false,
but even if it were true it is not a reason to offer an
absence of model like alternative. Because, obviously, the
model suggested by Lee is "something did something some share,
at a given moment". Here are which is judicious to overcome
the "scientific paralysis" 
In fact, it is not completely right. There
are some examples of claimed miracles which, according to
logic at the very least lame commune with various obediences
creationnists, are supposed to give credit to Creation by
validating the miracles. Jaerock Lee is not close subjecting
its capacity to true tests, one will not wonder too much
why... The first is the transformation of a water puit salted
into fresh water puit, at a distance of hundreds of km,
following the "prayers" of R?. Lee. Useless to say that
nothing serious supports this assertion. The other cases are
cases of cures or "spontaneous" fertilizations, visions in
religious matter, etc, which all hold of the anecdotic general
information, the rumour and miss serious follow-up necessary
to the scientific assertions. Without counting that even if
they were proven, they would not directly support the idea of
Creation.
Jean-Fran?is | |
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cropcircles
Registered voter it: 23 D?
2003 Messages: 12 Localization: France
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Posted it: Sam
Oct. 02, 2004 12:18 pm Subject of the
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I read, it is a long time
, that humanity had known in its history
approximately 100.000 proph?es of this kind (including most
known), in the heap it badly had undoubtedly not illuminated a
sinc?es there, but I think that the majority of enter them
intelligently established a plan of career, like one says
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Jean-Francais
Registered voter it: 03 Sep
2003 Messages: 1864
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Posted it: Sam
Oct. 02, 2004 2:29 pm Subject of the
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cropcircles wrote:
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in the heap it badly had undoubtedly not
illuminated a sinc?es there, but I think that the
majority of enter them intelligently established a plan
of career, like one says now |
Yes, it is always difficult to know the
share of sincerity at the gourous. However, I have the
impression that among "modern" all those which succeeded it
did because they were more lucid than illuminated at the
beginning *. I tend to think than the number of followers ends
up swelling the head same of most cynical: with force to be
supported in their delirious ideas, they end up being really
caught for demigods, even full-time gods. Especially if the
load of god is not too constraining and especially consists in
appeasing its primary education needs (puff out delicate, home
more-that-decent, and pretty girls - Ra? - or young boys -
Sai Baba) and to make some public appearances with turns of
magic and charisma. Even a mythomaniac finished like R.
Hubbard, was to remember well that his alleged capacities O.T.
were phantasmagoric. The proof, it never sought to make them
test seriously. Same manner, Claude Vorilhon behind His Show Ra? (Pope of the clo(w)n(e)s) must
remember well that its meetings with Elohim hold of the
fiction (alcoholic?) more than of reality. But, it would be
much more insane to change a way of life which offers all to
him than it wishes without much effort n the other hand. (This
is why it has badly reacts after the disclosure of a report in
which one of his/her former friends told how Vorilhon had been
praised to have found a trick to be made fric and girls
without tiring itself too much.)
For the remainder, the
logistics of the sect, there is as for very good company one
flopp? of frameworks (the credulous ones, more or less
convinced here) to occupy itself some... Most significant is
well to make them the lesson, then one can give them stations
to the exotic names (??ues, pastors... in the place of
personnel manager, secretaries, etc.) so that the shop goes
without that making too business. After all, their products are rather services
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Jean-Francais
* There must be exceptions, like
Jim Jones (of People' S Temple, person in charge for the
greatest collective "suicide" of XXe S.), but they must be
rarer than the swindlers who are caught - more or less - with
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