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The new Creator arrived : critiques on Lee-Jaerock

 

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Jean-François


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 Message Posted it: Ven Oct. 01, 2004 8:15 amndt Subject of the message: The new Creator arrived  To answer while quoting

They are the members of the ASCQ which will make a head of it, them which are mislaid to seek the Creator in the Bible whereas it has the two feet on... hum, perhaps not after all. The new Messiah, and leader of a religion counting on the Intelligent Design and other indigestible mixes science/religion to develop his personal model (and its banking account), is called "Revd. Dr.. Jaerock Lee ":
"[ Jaerock Lee ] expects that the scientifically confirmed and applicable boxes have the obviousness of supernatural intervention will cuts played significant year role in bringing butt the great shift in the thinking system of modern science and the existing philosophical view of human history, together with the epoch-making scientific research program, the intelligent design movement. And special He has interest in the scientific world by unraveling the unsolved puzzles gold mysteries of science. Until now He has been given many secret of the negro spiritual realm, the deep and negro spiritual meaning of the Bible and answers to the unsolved puzzles in the inspiration of the Holy Spirit."

This a spiritual of Manmin, religion batarde... forgiveness, syncretic head takes its are delirious for reality. The photograph of the banner page of "Manmin Research" (which, as for the "traditional" creationnists, has of "Research" only the name) shows Machu Picchu. Astonishing for a message supposément evangelic, but less if it is known that it is one of the traditional sites of archaeology fiction and the theories of the "former astronauts". Because, yes, Jaerock Lee powders its salad with a layer of pyramidiocie and UFO , to make good measurement.

With regard to the "evidence" of the Intelligent Design, one finds without surprised the same denial of the scientific theories associated the total conceptual vacuum which holds place of usual "demonstration" of the ID. On the judicious page to support ID , one finds fallacious assertions of the style: "There is absence in the professional scientific literature of any detailed models by which irreducibly complex biochemical systems could cuts been produced. In the face of the enormous complexity that modern biochemistry has uncovered in the life forms, the scientific community is paralyzed ". They is perfectly false, but even if it were true it is not a reason to offer an absence of model like alternative. Because, obviously, the model suggested by Lee is "something did something some share, at a given moment". Here are which is judicious to overcome the "scientific paralysis"  Laughing

In fact, it is not completely right. There are some examples of claimed miracles which, according to logic at the very least lame commune with various obediences creationnists, are supposed to give credit to Creation by validating the miracles. Jaerock Lee is not close subjecting its capacity to true tests, one will not wonder too much why... The first is the transformation of a water puit salted into fresh water puit, at a distance of hundreds of km, following the "prayers" of Rév. Lee. Useless to say that nothing serious supports this assertion. The other cases are cases of cures or "spontaneous" fertilizations, visions in religious matter, etc, which all hold of the anecdotic general information, the rumour and miss serious follow-up necessary to the scientific assertions. Without counting that even if they were proven, they would not directly support the idea of Creation.

Jean-François
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 Message Posted it: Sam Oct. 02, 2004 12:18 pm Subject of the message:  To answer while quoting

I read, it is a long time  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes , that humanity had known in its history approximately 100.000 prophétes of this kind (including most known), in the heap it badly had undoubtedly not illuminated a sincéres there, but I think that the majority of enter them intelligently established a plan of career, like one says now
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 Message Posted it: Sam Oct. 02, 2004 2:29 pm Subject of the message:  To answer while quoting

cropcircles wrote:
in the heap it badly had undoubtedly not illuminated a sincéres there, but I think that the majority of enter them intelligently established a plan of career, like one says now


Yes, it is always difficult to know the share of sincerity at the gourous. However, I have the impression that among "modern" all those which succeeded it did because they were more lucid than illuminated at the beginning *. I tend to think than the number of followers ends up swelling the head same of most cynical: with force to be supported in their delirious ideas, they end up being really caught for demigods, even full-time gods. Especially if the load of god is not too constraining and especially consists in appeasing its primary education needs (puff out delicate, home more-that-decent, and pretty girls - Raël - or young boys - Sai Baba) and to make some public appearances with turns of magic and charisma. Even a mythomaniac finished like R. Hubbard, was to remember well that his alleged capacities O.T. were phantasmagoric. The proof, it never sought to make them test seriously. Same manner, Claude Vorilhon behind His Show Raël (Pope of the clo(w)n(e)s) must remember well that its meetings with Elohim hold of the fiction (alcoholic?) more than of reality. But, it would be much more insane to change a way of life which offers all to him than it wishes without much effort n the other hand. (This is why it has badly reacts after the disclosure of a report in which one of his/her former friends told how Vorilhon had been praised to have found a trick to be made fric and girls without tiring itself too much.)

For the remainder, the logistics of the sect, there is as for very good company one floppée of frameworks (the credulous ones, more or less convinced here) to occupy itself some... Most significant is well to make them the lesson, then one can give them stations to the exotic names (évéques, pastors... in the place of personnel manager, secretaries, etc.) so that the shop goes without that making too business. After all, their products are rather services .

Jean-François

* There must be exceptions, like Jim Jones (of People' S Temple, person in charge for the greatest collective "suicide" of XXe S.), but they must be rarer than the swindlers who are caught - more or less - with the play.
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